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Bob Hulsey	Pirates Eat Morris' Contract	Lead	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3498 (04/27/2008 2:23 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None And you thought the Woody Williams deal was tough to swallow... http://sports.myway.com/news/04272008/v3854.html "Astro Fan Since They Were First Called Astros." Last Edited By: Bob Hulsey 04/27/2008 9:29 PM. Edited 1 time.
Baggyland		#1	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3082 (04/27/2008 6:03 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Who else in the NL Central needs starting pitching? Hum? Do we take a flier on Morris? He'll come cheap and is a veteran. His only down side is that he was a Cardinal for so long and beat the Astros many times.
bumpin99		#2	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 147 (04/27/2008 6:31 PM) AAA Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	i would take him if he signed cheap for a minor league deal.
baqqs		#3	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 732 (04/27/2008 8:07 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	No way I would ever want to see on him in an Astros uni. As far as minor league contract, I would even be hesitant there. Considering I don't beleive he will ever be a solid big league pitcher, he would be just in the way in the minors.
Bob Hulsey		#4	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3500 (04/27/2008 9:30 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	He's 0-4 with a 9.67 ERA. We might as well just take Woody back if we want those numbers. "Astro Fan Since They Were First Called Astros."
Lisa Gray		#5	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 93 (04/28/2008 8:28 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Bob Hulsey wrote: He's 0-4 with a 9.67 ERA. We might as well just take Woody back if we want those numbers. and actually, woody looked better. which is sad. morris doesn't have velocity, movement or location. unless some miracle coach can restore that, the guy just needs to retire.
Berkmaniac		#6	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 1331 (04/28/2008 12:39 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I thought it was so dumb when they signed him in the first place (especially for the $$$ amount), and now they just cut him? Man, that is salt in an open wound for Pirates fans.
tvcats		#7	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 69 (04/28/2008 12:49 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My solace is that at least the Astros aren't the only club making stupid deals.
Bob Balk		#8	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 620 (04/30/2008 8:36 PM) Bucs Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Berkmaniac wrote: I thought it was so dumb when they signed him in the first place (especially for the $$$ amount), and now they just cut him? Man, that is salt in an open wound for Pirates fans. It certainly was a stupid trade at the time, but I don't feel like cutting him added any salt to this Pirate fan's wound. I never understood the reasoning behind keeping somebody who isn't performing just coz he makes a lotta money. He couldn't be traded & sending him to the mound was a guaranteed loss every 5th day. The trade & picking up his salary are in the past, an act of the prior GM, & they can't be changed. So by releasing him & calling up a pitcher from the minors, it only costs the Pirates about $300,000 to improve their team. So why not do it?
cheo25		#9	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 109 (05/01/2008 8:38 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The sad thing is that I think everybody saw this coming at the time the trade was made. It was either a desperate act by a desperate man (Dave Littlefield) or the act of a man who knew he was gonna get fired anyway.
FatOldGuy		#10	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 74 (05/01/2008 2:02 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Berkmaniac wrote: I thought it was so dumb when they signed him in the first place (especially for the $$$ amount), and now they just cut him? Man, that is salt in an open wound for Pirates fans. Bucs fans can at least take some solace in the fact the front office regime that made that bonehead move is no longer there to muck up the works.
gigtime		#11	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 282 (05/01/2008 9:56 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	tvcats wrote: My solace is that at least the Astros aren't the only club making stupid deals. How'd you like to be the Braves right now paying Mike Hampton's $15 million salary this year? Dude hasn't pitched in the majors in nearly 3 years. Or the Giants with Barry Zito. Just under $15 million and he's yet to win a game this year. Kind of makes Woody or Villareal easier to swallow, doesn't it? Bill
danocaster		#12	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 157 (05/01/2008 11:11 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Was it Ted Williams that wanted to give part of his salary back one year because he felt like he didn't perform up to standards?
Astrogirl		#13	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3403 (05/01/2008 11:14 PM) Bagwell Babe Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Great point, gigtime! Now, we all feel a little better.
Bob Hulsey		#14	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3531 (05/02/2008 1:48 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The Giants are on the hook for Zito (just as the Dodgers are on the hook for Jason Schmidt) but the Braves aren't paying as much for Hampton as you might think. Hampton was signed to that awful contract by the Rockies and sent him to Florida, who was trying to unload the contract of Charles Johnson. But the Marlins couldn't afford Hampton either so the Rockies agreed to continue paying part of Hampton's contract just to make the deal go through. Well, the Marlins flipped him to the Braves, agreeing also to pay part of Hampton's contract. So Mike Hampton is actually getting paychecks from three teams - the Rockies, the Marlins and the Braves although he hasn't been worth any of it. "Astro Fan Since They Were First Called Astros."
gigtime		#15	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 285 (05/02/2008 12:18 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Bob Hulsey wrote: The Giants are on the hook for Zito (just as the Dodgers are on the hook for Jason Schmidt) but the Braves aren't paying as much for Hampton as you might think. Hampton was signed to that awful contract by the Rockies and sent him to Florida, who was trying to unload the contract of Charles Johnson. But the Marlins couldn't afford Hampton either so the Rockies agreed to continue paying part of Hampton's contract just to make the deal go through. Well, the Marlins flipped him to the Braves, agreeing also to pay part of Hampton's contract. So Mike Hampton is actually getting paychecks from three teams - the Rockies, the Marlins and the Braves although he hasn't been worth any of it. True, Bob. It seems like almost all these big long-term deals for FA pitchers, going back to the Kevin Brown deal, have turned out bad.
Bob Balk		#16	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 621 (05/02/2008 10:46 PM) Bucs Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The Pirates won tonight. This woulda been Morris's turn in the rotation. First start of the year for young lefty Phil Dumatrait, & first time this season the Bucs have gotten a win when the #5 starter started. Dumatrait didn't get the win, failing to go 5, but that's only coz of a long delay when some of the lights went out in the Nats' new ball park.
RyanED		#17	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 29634 (05/03/2008 11:27 AM) Golden Boy Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It doesn't seem like that long ago when Matt Morris was one of the best starting pitchers in all of baseball. It's tough to watch any athlete decline that rapidly, especially when it was an injury that was involved. From 1997 to 2003, Matt Morris was one of the best starting pitchers in all of baseball. Then again, it has been a long time since he was really good ( Sub-4 ERA ). He's been on the decline ever since 2004.

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