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tvcats	Shame on ESPN	Lead	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 193 (05/10/2008 7:53 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I am totally pi$$ed at ESPN and the way they continually dismiss the Astros. Instead of applauding the fact that Moehler pitched 5 shut out innings against the mighty Dodgers, stellar defensive plays, and an awesome offensive show - they just sort of ho-hum their way through talking about it. Instead of discussing just how H.O.T. Berkman is right now - they question why he is called Big Puma. If a player on the Yankees or Red Sox was putting on a show like Berkman - they would spend 10 minutes analyzing it and saying things like "there's no other MLB player that can come close to touching what he is doing right now". They make me want to retch. Why can't our team get some ESPN love?
Chris Rosenberger		#1	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 305 (05/10/2008 9:31 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	tvcats wrote: I am totally pi$$ed at ESPN and the way they continually dismiss the Astros. Instead of applauding the fact that Moehler pitched 5 shut out innings against the mighty Dodgers, stellar defensive plays, and an awesome offensive show - they just sort of ho-hum their way through talking about it. Instead of discussing just how H.O.T. Berkman is right now - they question why he is called Big Puma. If a player on the Yankees or Red Sox was putting on a show like Berkman - they would spend 10 minutes analyzing it and saying things like "there's no other MLB player that can come close to touching what he is doing right now". They make me want to retch. Why can't our team get some ESPN love? Because we're only the most successful of the south central teams in MLB. Wait ... there's only two teams in the south central. I can't give you a better reason than espn likes to fawn over themselves and since the fourth largest city in America is an industrial city we're not important like the "cultural icon" city's. It irks me to no end also. The Astros have been playing greatly the past two weeks and Puma has been as good as if not better than any player in the league (NL and AL). Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle.
Clack		#2	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 13988 (05/10/2008 9:34 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	We've been through this a million times on the board over the years. For all sorts of business reasons, ESPN will favor the Yankees and Red Sox. But I lost a lot of respect for ESPN after the "stab in the back" job they did on Tejada. After that show, I really don't watch ESPN as much as I used to.
Spudder		#3	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3589 (05/10/2008 9:44 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ESPN is really good on college sports, but undoubtly sucks in its MLB coverage. As a Rutgers grad, their NY-area bias has benefitted me, since ESPN loves Rutgers on their other-than-Saturday telecasts. The NY area hasn't had a decent college football team to cover since the glory days of Army football. But the heavy Yankee-Red Sox-Mets coverage accounts for the preponderance of their MLB coverage.
Flastrohs		#4	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 17039 (05/10/2008 9:50 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Spudder wrote: ESPN is really good on college sports, but undoubtly sucks in its MLB coverage. As a Rutgers grad, their NY-area bias has benefitted me, since ESPN loves Rutgers on their other-than-Saturday telecasts. The NY area hasn't had a decent college football team to cover since the glory days of Army football. But the heavy Yankee-Red Sox-Mets coverage accounts for the preponderance of their MLB coverage. The Astros haven't been on since opening day..hard to see Berkman and Tejada through that network. One problem...the Astros start their games at 7 pm CDST(at MMP) and ESPN usually starts showing games at 6 pm...I imagine if Houston keeps playing well, they'll start games at 6 for ESPN to carry. The Yankees and the Red Sox...ESPN and ratings.
Spudder		#5	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3590 (05/10/2008 10:11 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	When we were contending in the Bagwell-Biggio era, ESPN showed a ton of Wednesday Astros-Cards, Astros-Cubs games...I remember because as a season tix holder, I had to move up my arrival time to 6 PM.....and a lot of Fox Sat. PM games were shown too.....
Major Malcontent		#6	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 1320 (05/10/2008 10:30 AM) Butch Thespian Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ESPN is the Eastern Sports and Propaganda Network. When I worked the World Series between the Astros and the White Sox. Every single ESPN'er I talked to said "why are we even here..since NY and Boston aren't here..is anyone even watching???" They acted like they were being asked to cover a cow chip tossing contest in Nuevo Laredo instead of a World Series featuring 2 of America's top 5 cities. And another thing...its an Abomination that they are charging extra for people to see the Astros play the Yankees and the Sox. Yeah the Sox won the series...but the Spankme's are just another Wild Card team. Major Malcontent, the ONLY major leaguer with a +.450 RSVP and a .980 AEIOU in each of his 18 seasons in MLB! Last Edited By: Major Malcontent 05/10/2008 10:34 AM. Edited 1 times.
Bob Hulsey		#7	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3650 (05/10/2008 10:32 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The Fox games were regional games though. If you didn't live in the Midwest, you didn't see the Astros on Fox. I did see where the first game of the Cubs-Astros series in late may would be on ESPN although I don't know how prominently it will be shown. The East Coast bias is dominant and it shows when you get down to the playoffs and you have a series like Rockies-Diamondbacks and the announcers act like they are dealing with alien beings. If they offered more balance, maybe their ratings wouldn't be so bad when a series like that makes it to the postseason. The NBA is a little bit better, partly because the NY teams are so terrible. Oh, well. Let Lance Berkman be our little secret. Maybe he'll miss a few MVP voters that way but I don't think Lance particularly likes being in the media spotlight. He's not surly about it, but I don't think he enjoys that part of being a baseball star. "Astro Fan Since They Were First Called Astros."
filmtexas79		#8	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 689 (05/10/2008 10:39 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Simple: It's because the non-Astros games get a higher rating and viewership. It's about money in this business guys, you show what pays. I'd do the same.
Flastrohs		#9	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 17040 (05/10/2008 10:42 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	filmtexas79 wrote: Simple: It's because the non-Astros games get a higher rating and viewership. It's about money in this business guys, you show what pays. I'd do the same. Which is exactly the same reason they no longer have the NHL on ESPN...ratings. Which is why they have so much college football and college basketball on ESPN...ratings...people watch it. Same with their year round coverage of the NFL...ratings.
Spudder		#10	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3591 (05/10/2008 10:44 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Flastrohs wrote: filmtexas79 wrote: Simple: It's because the non-Astros games get a higher rating and viewership. It's about money in this business guys, you show what pays. I'd do the same. Which is exactly the same reason they no longer have the NHL on ESPN...ratings. Which is why they have so much college football and college basketball on ESPN...ratings...people watch it. Same with their year round coverage of the NFL...ratings. The NY-New England market approaches 35-40 million people who are baseball crazy....so ESPN's bias takes that into account...
Bob Hulsey		#11	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3653 (05/10/2008 10:49 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Baseball crazy, like that chick in New Hampshire that killed a Red Sox fan leaving a bar because she was a Yankees fan and they had traded insults while inside the bar? Eh, no thanks. "Astro Fan Since They Were First Called Astros."
Flastrohs		#12	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 17041 (05/10/2008 10:54 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Higher ratings=higher advertising dollars they get. Although...the Astros still don't get much love...I heard Joe Morgan talking about the NLC.. it was last Sunday. He mentioned SL....Chicago and Milwaukee as the 3 teams competing for the division and Houston was tied with Milwaukee after last Sunday's play. I know...he hates the Astros.
Spudder		#13	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3592 (05/10/2008 11:00 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Bob Hulsey wrote: Baseball crazy, like that chick in New Hampshire that killed a Red Sox fan leaving a bar because she was a Yankees fan and they had traded insults while inside the bar? Eh, no thanks. My Brother lives in Connecticut & his wife is from Boston. Baseball season is a tense time in that household. The hatred between the Sox and Yankee fans exceeds anything I've ever seen...worse than OU-Texas, A&M-Texas, Cards-Cubs, etc. Fans in the NE are all nuts.......heavily congested areas contribute to the inability to escape the hate....the worst experience in the World is supposedly for visiting fans at Fenway......
The Ausmus LongBall		#14	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 983 (05/10/2008 11:15 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	tvcats wrote: they question why he is called Big Puma. That name started off as more of local thing and I'm sure you know it was sort of tongue in cheek; however Berkman is living up to that name this season and looking good while doing it. Lance looks like he is probably in the best physical shape ever of his baseball career.
Zacatecano		#15	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 126 (05/10/2008 11:47 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The horrible thing that MLB did was let ESPN decide the Fan's protagonists and villains. There is an unequal coverage of teams. There is no disputing that fact. And it is those teams that are shown on our T.V. and other people's T.V. whom people start developing a feeling towards. Yankees come out a lot, you either hate them or like them. But, you see the Nationals on T.V.; even if they were the top team, most people don't know anything about the players. Any team not one ESPN's must see team; must have an angle. ESPN will always come back and say they paid money to MLB to show the games. And now ESPN and the networks decide the storybook line for MLB. Remember how we all wanted the Red Sox team to win because they hadn't won in 100 years. Booo whooooo. And remeber that we want the Yankees to win because they are the representation of America; Powerful, arrogant, and successful!!! Plots and stories make for viewer ship. I will say this to the East Coast. They were very responsible for starting and originally financing the leagues. They've had the crazy reputation of being outrageous fans since the turn of the century. They live and breath their teams. Here in the South, people complain that there isn't the same passion for our sports team. So, maybe ESPN is doing it the best way, they cater to the idiots. They aren't about reporting about baseball, they are ENTERTAINMENT sports netework. OH, wait, they already said they are Entertainemnt in their name. Screw those guys!!!! Why do fans continuously want to see their team on ESPN? To look at the highlights? Or to have someone talk about their team!!! I get my sports update from Yahoo!!!! I look at the box score and the standings and that is it. I figure that we in Houston aren't stupid enough for them to cater to us down here. After all, they all still think we have horse and buggy to go to work. But one day they will realize that Houstonions are as stupid as their market shares warrant; and on that day all of us dumb dumb will be thrilled to see them say wonderful things about our teams. Or Wait!!!! Maybe they realize were so backwards that we'll even watch them hype up some other city and we'll still watch. Makes you think. I guess the jokes on YOU!!! ...and unfortunately Me!!!
filmtexas79		#16	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 692 (05/10/2008 12:00 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I wouldn't mind horse and buggy with today's gas prices. Anyways, you think east coast baseball is tense? Wait 'till you root for soccer teams in third world countries. Nothing compares.
Bob Hulsey		#17	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3654 (05/10/2008 12:17 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I've always blamed soccer riots on the fact they are watching such an incredibly boring sport. They riot because there is not enough excitement on the field to occupy the attention of 70,000. "Astro Fan Since They Were First Called Astros."
Spudder		#18	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3594 (05/10/2008 12:37 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Bob Hulsey wrote: I've always blamed soccer riots on the fact they are watching such an incredibly boring sport. They riot because there is not enough excitement on the field to occupy the attention of 70,000. Amen.......soccer sucks......1-0 scores & such......for a 1-0 score, watching a Gibson-Koufax matchup was far better.....no riots, not boring...
Ed from CT		#19	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 797 (05/10/2008 1:14 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	....the worst experience in the World is supposedly for visiting fans at Fenway...... I went to Fenway when the Astros played the Red Sox a few years ago and they treated me great. Everytime I was there the visting fans seemed to get treated ok by the regulars. Met fans are ok too for the most part. Yankee fans on the other hand are the worst.
Lisa Gray		#20	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 115 (05/10/2008 2:24 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Major Malcontent wrote: ESPN is the Eastern Sports and Propaganda Network. When I worked the World Series between the Astros and the White Sox. Every single ESPN'er I talked to said "why are we even here..since NY and Boston aren't here..is anyone even watching???" They acted like they were being asked to cover a cow chip tossing contest in Nuevo Laredo instead of a World Series featuring 2 of America's top 5 cities. And another thing...its an Abomination that they are charging extra for people to see the Astros play the Yankees and the Sox. Yeah the Sox won the series...but the Spankme's are just another Wild Card team. yeah and buck and mccarver acted as if they were being punished by having to call the WS and neither one of em even bothered to look up any info on any astros player except the ex-yankees - if the freaking announcers didn't act/talk as if no other teams mattered except ny/boston, it might could help no matter HOW many females roger clemens boinked or whether or not he shot drugs, i will always be grateful to him for drawing a little media love and how many ASTROS fans wanted the stupid redsux/yecchies to come here? they wouldn't charge twice as much for tickets if nobody showed up. which is why they don't up the ticket prices for our long standing enemies the seattle somethings
GodFamilyAstros		#21	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 90 (05/10/2008 2:55 PM) ALL-STAR Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Bob Hulsey wrote: I've always blamed soccer riots on the fact they are watching such an incredibly boring sport. They riot because there is not enough excitement on the field to occupy the attention of 70,000. Last month I returned from a 5-month trip to Costa Rica. I did not grow up playing soccer, I did not like the game and I still do not like the game. However, I have to tell you the soccer fans I saw were amazing. The entire stands would stand on their feet for the entire game and watch every moment of the game. No concession breaks, no bathroom breaks, they just watch every moment of the game. I have been to college football and basketball games, NFL games, MLB games, NBA games, the Super Bowl, the Final Four, etc..... The only thing that comes close to soccer fanaticism is the Duke student section in a Duke-UNC basketball game, and that is only a section of the stands. I'm still not a fan of soccer, but I wanted to share my experience.
tvcats		#22	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 195 (05/10/2008 6:19 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yes, I understand that broadcasting is about $$$ and the east coast teams have a gabillion fans. But those teams also have their very own networks, devoted to no one other than that team. Anyway, I'm not so stupid or dumb that I think they are going to start showing a lot of games or discuss the Astros or a non-east coast team ad nauseum. I don't even want that much or to be catered to. What I do want is a marginally professional and unbiased comment lasting more than 3 seconds about outstanding stats and results. As someone that lives outside the Houston area and doesn't have the option of subscribing to MLB TV, I am at the mercy of my local FSN affiliate. And they choose to air Rangers games. I get to "watch" most games via Gameday, which mostly sucks. So I would just appreciate some approriate comments during the highlights on the most major sports channel available. And this is not just for the Astros or Berkman but for all of MLB. I do not think that is being particularly dumb or asking for too much. But hey, maybe I'm so stupid and dumb that I'm dumber and stupider than I think I am. In that case, just nevermind. Forgive me for having a wishful thought about even getting to see my favorite team in the highlight moments.
Dak05		#23	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 1149 (05/10/2008 6:38 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	it's not just the Wolrd Wide leader (tWWl)/four letter network/espn/whatever you're moniker du jour, it's pretty much media wide in my view. although today i say a story on yahoo about tejada and deadspin had a small blurb about berkman. But it seems like the stros and berkman are just getting overlooked on the whole... and maybe that's not a bad thing, i.e. the 15-30 team, the rockies last year, etc. etc.
Flastrohs		#24	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 17044 (05/10/2008 6:40 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	FOX game this afternoon, here where I live....Yankees and Detroit ESPN Sunday Night......Boston and the Twins..... I know the Tigers have been on ESPN at least 5 times this season....the 16-22 Detroit Tigers.
BoNcHiE1		#25	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 1233 (05/10/2008 8:02 PM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Flastrohs wrote: FOX game this afternoon, here where I live....Yankees and Detroit ESPN Sunday Night......Boston and the Twins..... I know the Tigers have been on ESPN at least 5 times this season....the 16-22 Detroit Tigers. Only 5 times? Everytime I turn on ESPN the Tigers, White Sox, Yankees, or Red Soxs are playing. Not only does ESPN seem to have a northeast bias, they seem to only show AL teams on there broadcasts for the most part.
Speedy08		#26	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 6674 (05/10/2008 10:55 PM) That's Baseball Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Simple solution, for me anyway, I don't watch the Bristol network unless there's a game I want to watch. A college football game, NFL, NBA playoffs and that's it. As soon as that particular game is over, I switch channels. I rarely watch a MLB game because I get enough baseball almost every day of the week with the Astros so I'm not all that amped up to watch 2 other teams go at it, plus if it's Sunday Night Baseball, I just refuse to listen to the garbage spewing out of Morgan's mouth. I never watch their weekly programming, Around the Horn and the like. I don't even watch Sportscenter any more. Screw Bristol!!! *The Real* HR Leaders Aaron 755, Ruth 714, Mays 660, Griffey, Jr. 603, F. Robinson 586 I started out with nothing...and I still have most of it.**
Astrogirl		#27	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 3431 (05/11/2008 1:16 AM) Bagwell Babe Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I never watch ESPN. Ever. So, I am chuckling over what they say.
Flastrohs		#28	[-]
Astros Fan Posts: 17093 (05/11/2008 7:12 AM) Astros Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Astrogirl wrote: I never watch ESPN. Ever. So, I am chuckling over what they say. I turned in on last night/this morning after the Astros game...about 10 minutes after midnight. They were going into a commercial break....but, ahead was the highlights of the Red Sox and whether Papelbon would blow another save....+ the Yankees highlights too! I turned the channel.
Zacatecano		#29	[-]

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