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Killing Iraqi civilians - though that is not the intent in some cases it is the reality.


Do you know that the American military is killing Iraqis at over TEN TIMES the rate that they were killed by Saddam Hussein? There is already a reasonable chance that we, the liberating Americans, have already killed more Iraqis in 20 months than Saddam did during his 20-year reign of terror.

Let's dissect your statement:
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The vast majority of the Iraqis are Shiites and they want the new government established


About two-thirds are Shiites. The last poll I saw showed that a clear majority of Iraqis, including Shiites, want the American troops to leave now.

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Do you even know what the elections in January are for. Do some research and you may get a clue. The election is to establish who will participate in the writing of the constitution. Not impose a government. That will come in at least 6 more months down the road.


You don't seem to understand that it is none of our business to hold elections in Iraq, set up a constitutional convention, etc, etc, etc. If you don't think we are there to help establish a specific form of government then you are hopelessly naive.

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The important part of that paragraph was what happened when the citizen of Iraq resisted. He was shot. Let's see an American shots a Sunni 12 hours after being shot in the face and 6 hours after watching someone in the same situation get blown away and the world gets really pissed. No double standard there, in your world it is just those thug Americans imposing their will on the poor hard working idyllic Iraqi pure hearts.


Yes, of course. The only defenseless Iraqi killed in cold blood by an American soldier just happened to be the one caught on tape. This is the old "if no one saw it, I didn't do it" defense. Tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians have been killed by American troops.

And for what? A lie about national security (WMDs) that most Bush supporters are too gutless to admit.

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We can not leave - it would be the equivalent of leaving the KKK of the 50s in charge of a black church full of old women and children. Also we are making reparations - last I heard it was over 37 billion and over 50 billion in forgiven debts.


LOL. Your generosity is amazing. We have decimated their country yet we magnaminously "forgive" loans that account for less than maybe 10% of the total amount of defense spending we have spent on attacking them. No. We should pull out, let them form their own government, and then funnel about another $300 billion over there to clean up the mess we created after things have stabilized.

Love the KKK analogy. Do you think the Iraqi death rate would go UP or DOWN if we pulled out?

Remember, we are killing Iraqis at ten times the rate of Hussein so whoever takes over is going to have to be at least 11 times worse than Saddam if you want to claim the death rate will go up.